Sunday November 15th, 2020 Roundtable

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Morning Prayers

Hold to the correct view of man that heals. We adulterate the Truth when we have a false sense of God and Man. We have idols when we hold in thought the beliefs of sin, sickness and death, and believe them to be real. We break the law when we believe that evil is as real as good, for this is a false sense which sees only the inverted image and not the true idea of God; hence it prevents us from reflecting the healing Truth, having but one God and loving our neighbor as ourself.

— from Divinity Course and General Collectanea, (the “Blue Book”), by Mary Baker Eddy, page 101


Question. — What is the scientific statement of being?

Answer. — There is no life, truth, intelligence, nor substance in matter. All is infinite Mind and its infinite manifestation, for God is All-in-all. Spirit is immortal Truth; matter is mortal error. Spirit is the real and eternal; matter is the unreal and temporal. Spirit is God, and man is His image and likeness. Therefore man is not material; he is spiritual.

— from Science and Health, 1910, by Mary Baker Eddy, page 468

Discussion points

97 — WATCH lest, in your effort to be scientific, you leave in your premise some assumption of the reality of mortality, or materiality, without realizing it. If you start with the declaration that there is no matter, — matter merely being the way God’s universe appears to one who is in rapport with mortal mind’s claim of mesmerism, — if you still retain the belief that you have, or ever have had the capacity to be controlled by human thinking, this belief would keep man mortal, and prevent him from making the demonstration of the fact that he is receptive to divine Mind alone and never has had any other capacity.The declaration that man is perfect must include the realization that he is not a wrong thinker, that he has no desire to be such, that he has never been one, and that God never created in him a capacity to think other than correctly, since his eternal existence as God’s child has forever included the qualities of perfection and goodness.

— from 500 Watching Points by Gilbert Carpenter




Golden Text — “I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.” — John 12 : 50




Link — “Achan and Living Quietly” Bible Study from November 7th, 2020




Mrs. Eddy said a lot about her book, Science and Health. She told students that “If you will make a study of Science and Health for one month, and go through the book as you would any textbook in college, it will be of great advantage to you.” To another she said, “God wrote the textbook. Study it; let God speak to you.” And, too, the warning that she gave, that “the time will come, or the time might come when medical thought might be so organized that it would make the practice of Christian Science almost impossible.” She said the remedy was, “When that time comes, I want my students to take every means possible to make Science and Health available to the world.” So, on page 110 of Science and Health she writes that “No human pen nor tongue taught me the Science contained in this book, Science and Health; and neither tongue nor pen can overthrow it. This book may be distorted by shallow criticism or by careless or malicious students, and its ideas may be temporarily abused and misrepresented; but the Science and truth therein will forever remain to be discerned and demonstrated.”

So, here we are, it’s telling us whatever she has in Science and Health must go out to the world, and I feel that we should include Mrs. Eddy’s place, — her own place, — and Science and Health — the receptivity of it — in our individual watches because they are essential right now. Also, in the “Blue Book” on page 100, she said the whole salvation, “Our whole salvation rests upon the manner in which we treat her, since the Way comes to us through her and God demands that we love our neighbor by having the spiritual sense of our neighbor, and the spiritual sense of our Teacher and Mother as God’s idea that we must love and honor.” This is part of what we have to be doing, and I include that in my watches. And so, I’m just feeling that if we can all do that, it will be very, very helpful.

— Florence Roberts


Know every day, that the world is ready for Christian Science.

— from Watches, Prayers, and Arguments by Mary Baker Eddy, pages 145




Holy: Entire or perfect, in a moral sense. Hence, pure in heart, temper or dispositions; free from sin and sinful affections. Hallowed; consecrated or set apart to a sacred use, or to the service or worship of God.

— from 1828 Webster’s Dictionary




Forum post — “If we array thought in mortal vestures.” by Joanne from FL




297 — WATCH that you consider properly what might be called one’s surplus thinking. If you pull up the weeds in your garden without regard to those surrounding it, you have a steady job, since the weeds around it continually encroach upon it. If we cultivate right thinking in reference to disease or to sick patients, and go no further, the weeds of thought in relation to the rest of our human experience may encroach on that small plot of cultivated right thinking.

Mrs. Eddy once declared, “If you do not have patients come to you, you can treat the birds and plants; they need treatment.” The birds and plants might stand for our surplus thinking, since we malpractice on whatever we hold in thought as being material or mortal. The whole of creation cries out to us to stop malpracticing on it, by holding it as matter, and subject to sin, sickness, decay and death. Our effort to think right starts with the endeavor to stop malpracticing on our own bodies when we suffer as a result of it, and to help others who are sick, by this same method. Such effort, however, is only a beginning in the right direction. We can never be called right thinkers until we have corrected our surplus thinking.

Once during a thunderstorm Mrs. Eddy directed her students to handle the surplus of electricity. This term suggests mortal mind that has gotten out of control and is running amuck. Mrs. Eddy saw the need of controlling and correcting it, and admonished her students to do likewise. As an illustration of surplus thinking, consider yourself being treated by a practitioner. You would know from your study of Science how he would think about you when he was giving you a treatment; but the question that concerns you is, what does he think about you when he is off guard? If he thinks of you as having some disease, or being in bondage to some error, the question is, whether his right thinking about you in treatment is sufficient to offset his human thinking about you when he is off guard. Practitioners should not only give their patients scientific treatments, but they should strive to correct their surplus, or careless, thinking about them as well. No student is progressing very fast who is not seeking to spiritualize his surplus thinking, the human thinking he indulges in when he is relaxed and off guard.

— from 500 Watching Points by Gilbert Carpenter




So, too, when we have learned what the laws of God are, and then have so thoroughly drilled them into our consciousness by meditation, declaration, and application, that, when any suggestion from within or without contrary to those laws rises in our experience, we are instantly and automatically surprised that there should be even a presumption that any thought or circumstance could successfully assert or carry through anything in thought or experience contrary to the laws of God, then we are protected against suffering and loss, as we never can be by any degree of knowledge less thoroughly assimilated in consciousness.

It is therefore often useful for a person to declare and endeavor to realize, many times per day, that love, joy, peace, and confidence in good are laws of God, and therefore of our being; that whenever we tolerate fear, anxiety, worry, doubt, or grief, we are breaking the law, and living a lie: that harmony, health, strength, action, life, express the laws of God, and that whenever we tolerate, without protest, thoughts or feelings of sickness, pain, weakness, inaction, or death, we are breaking the law, and living a lie. He who thus drills right thoughts into his consciousness, until they are brought into the very forefront of thought, and so cannot be forgotten when they are needed, and who orders his course in accordance with divine law, will be subject to very little suffering, either mental or physical, and to very little loss in any way.

— from Dominion Within by Rev. Kratzer




Demonstration or nothing.

— Plainfield Roundtable




It is from the world that we recruit new members, it is in the world that we work as mental missionaries. Because we work mentally, we can go into all the world and preach the Gospel and heal the sick. We could not possibly fulfill this demand of the Master physically; but when we perceive the scope of thought and the numbers of people we can reach mentally, we realize that that is the only way to fulfill it.

— from Mary Baker Eddy, Her Spiritual Precepts, by Gilbert Carpenter




The “Wedding Garment” of Divine Love (1899-1901)

In the Beginning Of 1899, Mary Baker Eddy received a letter from a student she had taught eleven years earlier. He wrote that he had served as Reader in his branch Church of Christ, Scientist, and recounted how much time and effort since his class instruction in Christian Science from her had been devoted to healing – and how he was “still working for that great prize to be able to have on the wedding garment.” He also hoped to be taught further by her. In reply Mrs. Eddy wrote about that “wedding garment” :

It is first the desire above all else to be Christ-like, to be tender, merciful, forgetting self and caring for others’ salvation. To be temperate, humble, pure, whereby appetite and passions cease to claim your attention and you are not discouraged to wait on God. To wait for the tests of your sincere longing to be good, and seek through daily prayer for Divine teaching. If you continue to ask you will receive, – provided you comply with what you must do for yourself in order to be thus blessed. Reading, or listening to my teaching the truths of Christian Science will not do for you what this earnest seeking and knowing and following can do for you….Be of good cheer, you cannot seek without finding.

The wedding garment is a term Jesus used in a parable about those invited by a king to his son’s wedding to which “many are called, but few are chosen.” In her Message to The Mother Church for 1900, Mrs. Eddy wrote: “To-day you have come to Love’s feast, and you kneel at its altar. May you have on a wedding garment new and old, and the touch of the hem of this garment heal the sick and the sinner!” Mrs. Eddy was speaking out of her own experience. A number of years earlier she had told her students’ association: …One of the best cures I ever performed was, apparently, under the most adverse circumstances.I had spent one year of incessant toil upon the [manuscript] of my book, Science and Health, and put it into the hands of a printer for publication, who, I found, had allowed it to be taken from his possession, and I was thus obliged to return, in the sackcloth of disappointment, without it. A student soon called desiring me to assist in a case that was dying. I put on the wedding garments at once and healed the case in twenty minutes.”

— from Mary Baker Eddy: Christian Healer Amplified Edition, by Yvonne Cache von Fettweis




Book post — 500 Watching Points, by Gilbert Carpenter, C.S.B.




Forum post — “The Immortality of Good” by Parthens




Final Readings

Article — “Science And The Senses” Miscellaneous Writings, by Mary Baker Eddy, page 98







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